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	<title>Comments on: Triple F Dropouts.</title>
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		<title>By: Dwight Kellams</title>
		<link>http://www.kirkframeworks.com/blog/2010/07/28/triple-f-dropouts/comment-page-1/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Kellams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any thought to incorporating a polished metal(stainless) for the contact point surfaces to avoid the worn/chipped/peeled paint look once the dropouts get some wear?  I believe this is what the Ellis Signature dropouts have and that my 1989 Schwinn Paramount had as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any thought to incorporating a polished metal(stainless) for the contact point surfaces to avoid the worn/chipped/peeled paint look once the dropouts get some wear?  I believe this is what the Ellis Signature dropouts have and that my 1989 Schwinn Paramount had as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Triple F Dropouts.</title>
		<link>http://www.kirkframeworks.com/blog/2010/07/28/triple-f-dropouts/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Triple F Dropouts.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] knows how long the Triple F is now available and ready to ship. See all the details on my blog - Kirk Frameworks Custom Bicycles - Blog  Thanks for looking.  Dave   fff3.jpgfff5.jpgfff4.jpgfff2.jpgfff1.jpg    D. Kirk Kirk Frameworks [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] knows how long the Triple F is now available and ready to ship. See all the details on my blog &#8211; Kirk Frameworks Custom Bicycles &#8211; Blog  Thanks for looking.  Dave   fff3.jpgfff5.jpgfff4.jpgfff2.jpgfff1.jpg    D. Kirk Kirk Frameworks [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kirks</title>
		<link>http://www.kirkframeworks.com/blog/2010/07/28/triple-f-dropouts/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>kirks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

Assuming that they work as as planned there will be cast versions but that will certainly be awhile any way you slice it. If/when they are cast it will be pretty simple to have gated molds made to allow for versions with rack eyelets cast in. 

Thanks for the comments,
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>Assuming that they work as as planned there will be cast versions but that will certainly be awhile any way you slice it. If/when they are cast it will be pretty simple to have gated molds made to allow for versions with rack eyelets cast in. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments,<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: kirks</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey PG,

You nailed the core concept - ball and socket. It allows for most any angle to be made and a large surface area both inside and outside the tube for brazing.

Thanks for reading.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey PG,</p>
<p>You nailed the core concept &#8211; ball and socket. It allows for most any angle to be made and a large surface area both inside and outside the tube for brazing.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: kirks</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

1) they will go on most bikes but not all. In some cases other dropouts will be a better choice. For instance I&#039;m in the middle of a fully loaded touring bike right now and it&#039;s best to build thoe with a long horizontal slotted dropout so the bike can be set up as a single speed if the derailleur fails in the middle of nowhere.
2) mounts for racks and fenders can be added.
3) the Triple F&#039;s are pretty darn light but still might be a bit clunky for earrings........... but who knows. Set some stones in them and see how they sell.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>1) they will go on most bikes but not all. In some cases other dropouts will be a better choice. For instance I&#8217;m in the middle of a fully loaded touring bike right now and it&#8217;s best to build thoe with a long horizontal slotted dropout so the bike can be set up as a single speed if the derailleur fails in the middle of nowhere.<br />
2) mounts for racks and fenders can be added.<br />
3) the Triple F&#8217;s are pretty darn light but still might be a bit clunky for earrings&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. but who knows. Set some stones in them and see how they sell.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kirkframeworks.com/blog/2010/07/28/triple-f-dropouts/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These dropouts look great and I hope they become available in a less expensive cast form. 
The shape also looks like a natural for adding integral fender / rack eyelets on a similiar &quot;petal&quot; form.

It would be especially nice if the driveside eye was dished away from the cassette to allow a thin nut to be used and not interfere with the smallest cassette cog / chain.

That can be for &quot;down the road&quot;. For now, these look really nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These dropouts look great and I hope they become available in a less expensive cast form.<br />
The shape also looks like a natural for adding integral fender / rack eyelets on a similiar &#8220;petal&#8221; form.</p>
<p>It would be especially nice if the driveside eye was dished away from the cassette to allow a thin nut to be used and not interfere with the smallest cassette cog / chain.</p>
<p>That can be for &#8220;down the road&#8221;. For now, these look really nice.</p>
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		<title>By: parris</title>
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		<dc:creator>parris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave congrats on the design.  Looking at the ball end of them they remind me almost of a ball and socket joint.  Two things from the way the photos look it appears that there&#039;s more surface area for brass to hold onto making for what&#039;s potentially a stronger joint.  And also would these tend to minimize possible stress risers in the chainstay/seatstay joint due to not having to cut into the tubes?  I also like the way they look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave congrats on the design.  Looking at the ball end of them they remind me almost of a ball and socket joint.  Two things from the way the photos look it appears that there&#8217;s more surface area for brass to hold onto making for what&#8217;s potentially a stronger joint.  And also would these tend to minimize possible stress risers in the chainstay/seatstay joint due to not having to cut into the tubes?  I also like the way they look.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely, of course:
1.  Will these go on all your bikes now?
2.  Can these handle braze-ons for fenders and racks?
3.  Idea for the holiday season:  the FFF earrings ( . . . I&#039;ve certainly seen worse).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely, of course:<br />
1.  Will these go on all your bikes now?<br />
2.  Can these handle braze-ons for fenders and racks?<br />
3.  Idea for the holiday season:  the FFF earrings ( . . . I&#8217;ve certainly seen worse).</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.kirkframeworks.com/blog/2010/07/28/triple-f-dropouts/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a builder but those are fantastic dropouts, Dave. Great work! Photo #4 really highlights their simplicity and design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a builder but those are fantastic dropouts, Dave. Great work! Photo #4 really highlights their simplicity and design.</p>
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